I tried the stock 15 rnd magazine, plus 3 other magazines, and the same issue kept happening. Some hang up going into the chamber, some the bolt will not completely chamber & some will fire but not extract. POLISH the feed ramp on your .30 caliber carbine. New M1 Carbine Failure to Feed I just bought a new auto ordinance M1 Carbine Paratrooper a few months ago. It might happen once per magazine, it might happen multiple times in a magazine. Same problem with different mags and various ammo. Whether because of their age or inherent shortcomings in the design itself, frustrated M1 Carbine owners frequently deal with problems like failures to feed and failures to eject. You have to give us more. The specifications of which were: Weight. But this is not the former division of General Motors that is known for its war time production of American arms. . 25 rounds ain't enough to make a judgement call on IMO. the only issue I had when my AO was new was failure to go into battery. The M1 Carbine 30-Round Magazine is an all steel magazine designed for use with the M1 Carbine. This is a new company with new production firearms. You have to shell out the bucks for the real Korean/Vietnam era M2 magazines if you want reliable feeding/cycling. Generally failure to feed. It seems to wiggle a couple thousandths but not any more so than when i got the rifle, and would previously operate fine. I was shooting it this week and the last round of every magazine would jam. In those days, I owned a Winchester M1 Carbine. I recently bought two return springs for an M1 Carbine advertised as "M1 Carbine recoil spring, high speed- new" I wont mention where I got them but I Sometimes the bolt goes completely over the next round in the magazine. Overview. I could use a little help with a problem I am having with an M1 carbine. Length. 3. Replacing the latch, I have heard, is a simple procedure. May 13, 2016 at 12:19 pm. Mainly failure to feed from magazine any of the magazines I have (6). Overall this is one of the better magazines I've bought for my M1 Carbine, its hard to find a good reliable mag for these guns. One of the most important things we have to mention in our Universal M1 Carbine review . Manufacturer: ProMag Industries. Hi All, I have been shooting CMP Greek ammo for a few weeks now out of my M1 with no issues (after changing the op rod spring). The M1 carbine and its variants, which were officially in United States service from 1942 until 1973, served with distinction in the hands of U.S. troops throughout several critical engagements, including World War II, Korea, and Vietnam.There are a million things that could be said about the M1 carbine, but today, we're going to go with a very basic one. The following questions remain after reading the related thread: How do the commercial parts in a Springfield M1A fail, especially as compared to an M1A with 50+ year old GI parts (or an ideally configured LRB, Fulton, etc)? Many M1s have an M2 latch. bullets, when fired in good old US military 30 M1 Carbines, with their 18-inch barrels. . The carbine was a combined: birthday, Christmas and clemency gift*. Stateside, a carbine in .22mag might make a bit more sense for the niche Brooks was describing. Clean/lubricate the action 5. On some of the problem well used GI, I've changed the springs w/ NOS GI springs and still problems. 30 M1 carbine. Loose gas cylinder. Occasionally it will fail to feed correctly. The so-called "Rack Grade" carbines are a bit less expensive. Some rounds, especially hand loads, might not be loaded "hot" enough to cycle the action. View Profile . A friend gave me a mixture of about 50 NOS and well used GI and commercial M1 carbine mags- mostly 15s w/ some 30's. Frustrated that, except for NOS GI, most commercial and used GI are problems- FTFeed, FTEject etc. The most common problem with the Carbine was failure to feed. 2. Finally, we acquired a new Auto-Ordnance AOM130 M1 Carbine ($899) with beautiful walnut stock and newly manufactured metalwork. Reply May 22, 2012 HiredHand Sharpshooter Supporting Member Joined Sep 13, 2007 Messages 5,416 Reaction score 1,274 Location Tulsa Metro May 22, 2012 #14 As for the magazines themselves; GI 15 round mags work best. . . They're old. When you have a combo of old worn gun with old worn mags popping off potent fresh ammo the timing can be wonky. Fire 300-500 rounds through it and it's broken in. 3 Bullet-Shaped Felt-Tipped Dremel Polishing Bits. Many of the aftermarket magazines made for the WWII M1 Carbine are not made to true military. While perusing gunbroker, I stumbled upon an as-new Auto-ordnance M1 carbine, at a very low price. I was shooting Armscor and Augilla ammo. These magazines are designed to fit, feed, and function in any M1 Carbine that is built to military specifications. Bullet Type: N/A. Reassess target and environment. If such a load works in your M2 it would be easy on both the barrel and receiver. While testing the AO M1 Carbine I experienced no malfunctions or failure to feeds through nearly 500 rounds of testing. It's not a failure to eject, the picture is of a live round. American Tax Dollars at Work. Box Qty: N/A. Manufacturer: Auto-Ordnance Model: M1 Carbine Vengeance SKU: AOM130C1 Caliber: . For some reason, it was violently stripping . But, if you have an M1 latch, that might be the cause of your problems. I'm a sucker for the M1 Carbine look and .22 is the only way I can get semi-auto over here. These rifles have always had failure to feed issues - even during WWII and Korea. available for immediate purchase and . F ailure to cycle malfunctions is the most common malfunction seen on the M1 Garand. Sem categoria. I've seen them made by Erma. While the plant continued to produce machine guns, the facility took on a series of contracts for M1 Carbines. You said "new 30 rounders". The most common problem with the Carbine was failure to feed. This video describes something he did to stop his feed problems. If you have one, it . Disassemble and clean/oil the magazines. Ensure the recoil spring guide was not bent 4. As a handy, light, easy to get into action short carbine it really has a good solid design. No. It started several weeks ago, at work of all places. Today (when I started writing this, day-before-yesterday now), I took along to the range my recently acquired M1 carbine. Aguilla is the best I have found. At 7:43 he refers to function problems. bullet @ 1970 fps out of the carbine…..it is possible to . Inc is not responsible for any failure to comply with or observe these laws. I've read about, and experienced failure to feed, using HP ammunition. . I HAVE tried a new adjustable gas block though, and has the same problem with the setting "completely screwed in". Unlike many other firearms, these need to be broken in. Roll Over, Stove Pipe, Failure to feed, Failure to close-Battery, Failure to extract, Short cycle, ETC. Gtek 05-02-2012, 09:41 PM #4. frnkeore. Even the M1911 pistol magazine was flawed-the feed lips are easy to damage, the follower design can be improved, the thin magazine body will be hammered and dented by recoil and the cartridges slapping back and forth. These problems are normally very easy to resolve. POI is about 3" lower at 100yds than with PPU, IMI and Korean surplus (all which seem to shoot to the same POI give or take an inch). Given to Dad in '06 (? Failure to Extract Double Feed Triple Feed Failure to Unlock Simple Carbine Malfunction Remediation Immediate Action Drill (IAD): Tap magazine aggressively (finger out of trigger guard). It is notable that the sheriff of that time, Jim Clark, later was convicted of drug smuggling! The M1 Garand semiautomatic rifle U.S. Pat. Messy and downright inconvenient on the firing range, it is . Alpo. Is your M1 Carbine having a hard time feeding? They also feed in all M1 Carbines I've tried them in without problems. The M1 Carbine was the most prolifically produced weapon of the Second World War with over 6.2 million produced from 1942 to 1945. Check the length/number of turns of the recoil spring 3. With steel, it tends to be about 1 in 40 or so. POI is about 3" lower at 100yds than with PPU, IMI and Korean surplus (all which seem to shoot to the same POI give or take an inch). Occasionally it will fail to feed correctly. No. I prefer H110 in my carbine loads, cast and jacketed. My carbine as I received it, did have occasional failures to feed, about once every 100-150 rounds or so, but re-springing it fixed that almost entirely and now any failure is very rare. There were frequent problems regarding failure to feed and eject. 30 Carbine - 110 Grain FMJ - Aguila - 50 Rounds; 30 Carbine - 110 Grain FMJ - Aguila - 50 Rounds. It doesn't get much more American than the old Ruger Ranch Rifle: the Mini-14. The solution was a redesigned mag catch that supported the longer 30rd mag. 30 round magazines ( aftermarket ) are not very reliable. The US Carbine, Caliber .30 M1 was Semiautomatic, with a 15 round detachable magazine, firing a 108 gr bullet at 1990 fps, 950 ft-lbs muzzle energy", effective up to 300 yds.The M2 was selective fire, with a 30 round magazine, effectively answering the Chinese Burp Gun. Velocity 1600 FPS . The Saginaw #2 Plant would produce 293,592 carbines between 1943 and . The M1 carbine and its variants, which were officially in United States service from 1942 until 1973, served with distinction in the hands of U.S. troops throughout several critical engagements, including World War II, Korea, and Vietnam.There are a million things that could be said about the M1 carbine, but today, we're going to go with a very basic one. The M1 Carbine's gas piston is a short throw piston, it needs a solid boot to work correctly; the M14 is the same way. I've had it out 3-4 times and consistently get this failure Doesn't matter what magazine, FMJ or soft point. 30-rounders were designed for use in the M2. The typical current commercially manufactured 30 M1 Carbine ammo is running at or below 1,900 fps with 110gr. Now, this clue needs an overt preface, which is that failure to feed can be caused by a lot of predisposing factors, and might not be a sign that your magazine is failing or flawed. With steel, it tends to be about 1 in 40 or so. But there isnt a problem if commonality for bullets was wanted in 1940. I had failure to feeds in my fulton carbine with Privi Partisan Soft points, but they had alot more lead exposed than the remingtons. If your carbine does not have the mag catch with the support arm on the left side, get one before you procced with feed ramp grinding. Ensure the piston was moving freely 6. Casing: N/A. All the videos I've seen claim failure to feed once or twice a mag, but they are using bottom shelf ammo. oh mercy! Caliber: N/A. The bullets kept getting stuck on the feeder ramp. Rack charging handle to rear and release. During my time with it, I did not clean it and only applied lubrication to the receivers and the action. For jacketed I've use the Hornady 100 gr HJ for many years and they work extremely well giving excellent accuracy at 1900+ fps and excellent terminal performance. I have an Auto-Ordnance M1 and I love it!! do so from a US based Internet Service Provider. That is right, I said Inland. 1 Pair of Black Nitrile Industrial Strength Gloves. The Yankee Armorer, Inc will only ship after full payment . 5.2 lbs. Cked the orientation of the springs, still problems. I would estimate this happens about every 1 out of 15 rounds. Firearm & Feed Ramp Polishing Kit - What's Included: 1/2oz can of Non-Abrasive Firearm Polish. Most of the corrective actions we'll be taking require that the rifle be field stripped. It appears that FTF/FTE/misfeed issues are common with M1 Carbines. 1 Microfiber Towel. Recent Purchase: M1 converted to M2 - posted in The M1/M2 Carbine Message Board: Hi All, Im new to the class 3 world and I just purchased an M2 for my first FA firearm. History buffs and reenactors take note-Inland Manufacturing has announced the launch of their new incarnation of the old M1 Carbine line. ). When the US issued this military cartridge in 1941, it was designed to propel a 110gr. The Caliber .30 M1 Carbine and Manual. 1,892,141, and is related to the sighting and feed mechanism of that rifle. Turn carbine outboard so ejection port is down. Flood the piston with gun solvent and let it soak. I've got a 4 digit serial number National Ord carbine from the 1962-1968 period (per the "Markings B" section HERE. Out of stock. The long-lived M1 Carbine was used into the early 1960s by U.S Special Forces advisers in Vietnam and by indigenous troops throughout the war due to its compact size and light weight (5lbs, 3oz). Failure to do so will result with your new account denied. . The M1 carbine (formally the United States Carbine, Caliber .30, M1) is a lightweight semi-automatic carbine that was a standard firearm for the U.S. military during World War II, the Korean War and the Vietnam War.The M1 carbine was produced in several variants and was widely used by paramilitary and police forces around the world, and also became a popular civilian firearm after World War II. Barrel. . Description: Inv. Você está aqui: Início. Left, M1 Carbine Receiver (photo by Rama - Own work, CC BY-SA 2.0 fr,). having the tools and experience working on M1 Carbines. (photo by Surv1v4l1st - Own work, CC BY-SA 4.0) On a side note, as a WWII historian, I've found that Ken's statement is true . Larry Gibson Last edited by Larry Gibson; 05-03 . (Now I reload) They're old. I am slight of build, down to 5-5 and 136 pounds at 79 but thought the M1 Carbine was made for me. This tiny M1-style carbine weapon was designed to be amazingly rugged, especially considering how it was originally crafted for the whacking of sly coyotes on the open range. or a hang-fired machine gun with a feed jam due to failure to extract. Review Date: 8/8/2010. . repeat three times 7. My experience with my 1943 Inland M1 Carbine is some initial random failure to cycle properly, but with one or two hundred rounds through it, something close to 100% reliability. ProMag CAR-A2 U.S M1 Carbine Magazine 30RD 30CAR Blued Steel. Right, 15 and 30 round mags. I should also say that an M1 carbine feed or ejection malfunction is very, very easy to clear in my experience. 14 reviews Reviews. I could use a little help with a problem I am having with an M1 carbine. The bolt is released and allowed to slam shut, pulled by the operating rod. 7564 . Same goes for 15 rounders, pick up USGI @ gunshows. I have a lot of Lee 120 gr round nose gas checked bullets that have been giving me the blues. 1,892,141 has a problem with only being able to be loaded with an enbloc clip and not being able to mount a center line optical sight or other devices over the receiver of the rifle. Right, 15 and 30 round mags. And still more reliable (if only a little) than my Garand. $15.95. Feeding and chambering a round The bolt is pulled back slightly, and the operating rod catch now disengages because the follower has been depressed. (photo by Surv1v4l1st - Own work, CC BY-SA 4.0) The .30 Carbine (7.62×33mm) is a rimless carbine/rifle cartridge used in the M1 carbine introduced in the 1940s. . Soldiers just learned to deal with it. Usually when the M1 Carbine has a FTF (failure to feed) the cause of the FTF is with the magazine (s). I would estimate this happens about every 1 out of 15 rounds. National governments often make too much ammo. The bore is super bright with razor sharp rifling, not a sign of frost anywhere. (feed better . I put in a lowball bid, thinking there was no way it could go that low - the A-O Carbine is MSRP $899. Description. It was widely used by U.S. and foreign military, paramilitary and police forces, and has also been a popular civilian firearm . It is a light rifle round designed to be fired from the M1 carbine's 18-inch (458 mm) barrel. The current invention is an improvement upon the M1 Garand semiautomatic rifle U.S. Pat. A couple of youtube videos. 7- if you do have a USGI mag, remove the bottom plate stretch the spring and re-install 8- Use wire brush clean the chamber 9- check the trigger group pin that the trigger group is tight on the action The gas plug be just not be sealing properly and be defective. I had a couple of 15 round magazines. After shooting about 45 rounds with this magazine, it seemed to break in and only jam/failure to feed with Armscor ammo. Turn off any VPN/safe-browsing feature. When he takes it to the range, he has a few misfires/jams . I had a bunch of feed issues with that rifle though, even with FMJs, I eventually attributed the problems to to worn out mag springs on the surplus mags I got from the CMP years back. I also use SR primers (mostly WSRs). The FTF could have been anything, mag, maybe needing new springs or the soft point ammo not wanting to feed. It's like new; great condition and probably has only a few thousand rounds through it. Two of our carbines came from the CMP, both "Service Grade.". Sometimes the bolt goes completely over the next round in the magazine. It's pretty cool, has the heat shield and grease tube in the stock. After shooting about 45 rounds with this magazine, it seemed to break in and only jam/failure to feed with Armscor ammo. Other times the round has started to feed but the bolt is smashing into the middle of the round. The Winchester HP round has a very small HP cavity, however, this can cause feeding problems when there is a rough surface on the feed ramp . This failure mode is also called "Short Stroking". This only happened a few times and was fixed with a good cleaning and lube. Author: Mike Ellis. The M1 carbine (formally the United States Carbine, Caliber .30, M1) is a lightweight semi-automatic carbine that was a standard firearm for the U.S. military during World War II, the Korean War and the Vietnam War.The M1 carbine was produced in several variants and was widely used by paramilitary and police forces around the world, and also became a popular civilian firearm after World War II. However, the model deteriorated in reliability factor towards the end of its days. Any thoughts? My buddy had an M1 carbine ( USGI Winchester ) heres what we learned More than likely your problem lies in your magazines. 35.6 in. ar15 failure to feed 2nd round. It appears to be a correct barrel for the receiver (USGI WWII rebuild) and seems to be in good condition. We have designed these M1 Carbine magazines to perform as good as the military originals, including the utilization of a bolt stop magazine follower. I did get some really bad .30 Carbine ammo from Armscorp. M14/M1A common failures, maintenance issues, etc. I just received a new shipment on Sat of the CMP Lake City ammunition and took it to the range today. Aug 14, 2021. I loaded a few enblock clips and went to it, with quite a few. "That was just part of the way the world was." Left, M1 Carbine Receiver (photo by Rama - Own work, CC BY-SA 2.0 fr,). I have a hi point carbine, and I love it, but this is just an addition. While this price sucks compared what I paid for it 2-3 years ago it's my preferred "test" ammo. Each stuck case needed to be mortared out of the gun, with some requiring multiple attempts before coming loose. When I measured the cases they were way out of spec. We'll cover the most common reasons for this below. M1 carbine mfg in mid 70's with about 200 rds through her. (Something I'm betting that Ruger isn't interested in doing.) Generally failure to feed. I recently inherited my Dad's 183 series Mini-14 that he bought in 1982. The M1 carbine (formally the United States Carbine, Caliber .30, M1) is a lightweight, easy to use semi-automatic carbine that became a standard firearm for the U.S. military during World War II, the Korean War, and the Vietnam War, and was produced in several variants. But it would mis-feed about once every 50 rounds - try to feed a round late, or it would skip over the round on the top of the mag, etc. Is an immediate replacement of the bolt necessary? 1. Go to previous image Go to next image. I fired 60 shots with one failure to feed. The M1 Carbine was supposed to replace all front-line pistols . When better ammo is used, the problem is nullified. The magazine followers without the bolt stop/hold open work better than the the ones with it. Only show this user. Brownell's sells a Wolff spring tune up kit for the M1 Carbine for $18 or so. Tula is a no-go with the Inland Manufacturing M1 1945 Carbine. One was an Underwood (CMP-1, $565) and the other an Inland (CMP-2, $ 495). After it's success with producing the M1919A4 machine gun that began in 1940, Plant #2 obtained a contract for 365,500 M1 Carbines on February 13, 1943 (5, p. 156). Production Numbers. The same thing happens on every round when fed manually, it functions about 1/2 the time when firing. I suspect it's from a bit more friction on the case feeding out of the magazine combined with a lighter charge. M1 Carbine had 1-20" twist, and OAL issues if you wanted a spitzer rather than a RN. If there was a significant change to pressures or pressure curves, that solid boot needed could easily be turned to a soft push; a push insufficient to cycle the action. I was shooting Armscor and Augilla ammo. If you have one, it . Is your M1 Carbine having a hard time feeding? Other times the round has started to feed but the bolt is smashing into the middle of the round. 18 in. Aug 8, 2021 (Edited) Only show this user. It seems like the brass case is catching on something around the barrel, but the entire circumference is smooth and clean. The original versions of the Universal .30 Carbine were quite good in terms of their design and reliability. In ended up on my brother's side of the family. If one were in Israel, the M1 carbine would be easier and faster to feed. They love it there, still make the round a few variations of the M1 itself with the associated mags. The 5-pound M1 Carbine firing an intermediate power 30-caliber cartridge seemed well suited for the job. feed ramp, and bolt face show little use. Do not ride charging handle forward. I'd plink with it at ranges; the accuracy was ho-hum, but it was a fun little plinker to shoot. Typically there is . It had a different magazine latch, to hold the longer, curved mag in place. Longer magazine, different feed ramp, different twist . Polishing your Feed Ramp greatly Improves feeding operations by eliminating microscopic machining lines that slow . the only . Inland U.S. M1 A1, Paratrooper Carbine, Cal .30, 55488XX. This strips the top cartridge out of the clip and pushes it into the chamber. I took it shooting today and it did not feed. Today, we're talking about what kind of performance users can realistically expect from these guns as well as a few fixes for the most common problems. Product # is 969-180-550AE. Real garbage. if you want a carbine that approximates the M1 carbine in appearance and function but uses cheap ammo, the . In the days before amateur, high-precision shooting from the bench, gun consumers weren . The M1 Carbine fed the 15rd mags just fine with the original mag catch but when they tried the 30rd, it failed to feed repeatedly. In other words, pretty much like a brand new 1911. Soldiers just learned to deal with it. Ammo Quantity - 50 rounds Ammo Manufacturer - Aguila Bullets - 110 gr full metal jacket (FMJ) Ammo Casings - Boxer-primed brass Firing 10 rounds, I had 8 malfunctions; six stuck cases, one failure to fire, and one failure to go into battery. The best ammunition that ran through the weapon was hands down the Hornady Critical Defense 110-grain loads. ar15 failure to feed 2nd round . Came across a chance to buy a Plainfield 30 cal. Since the trigger group is . How to fix M1 .30 Carbine failure to fire due to light primer strikes. Some rounds, especially hand loads, might not be loaded "hot" enough to cycle the action. The Garand didn't-but isn't rated as a failure. (They hope it will be too much when they make it, at least.) Now, this clue needs an overt preface, which is that failure to feed can be caused by a lot of predisposing factors, and might not be a sign that your magazine is failing or flawed. In all, Inland produced over 2.5 million of them, nearly half of the total production by . I suspect it's from a bit more friction on the case feeding out of the magazine combined with a lighter charge. Per several reviews, I replaced the factory recoil spring with a .
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